That is the transcript of an interview hosted on Ruth’s Really feel Higher. Stay Free. podcast.
Ruth Soukup: What if I advised you that regardless of the way you’re feeling proper now or what well being points you is perhaps battling, there’s one mineral you might begin taking that may make you’re feeling noticeably higher inside simply in the future. Sounds nearly too good to be true. Doesn’t it?
That’s what I assumed too, till I spent a while speaking to at the moment’s podcast visitor, Dr. Carolyn Dean.
Dr. Dean is likely one of the nation’s foremost consultants in magnesium and the impression it may possibly have in your well being. And I bought to inform you what she has to share is fairly compelling. And the very best half is it’s fairly easy.
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Immediately we’re going to be chatting with Dr. Carolyn Dean, who’s a doctor and naturopathic doctor. In addition to one of many nation’s main consultants in magnesium and the creator of the brand new e book, Magnesium: The Lacking Hyperlink to Complete Well being. And at the moment she’s sharing some particulars in regards to the impression magnesium can have in your well being as together with why so many people are magnesium poor and the steps which you could take to instantly begin feeling higher.
Like I stated, it’s fairly compelling. So with out additional ado, I’m very excited to have the ability to introduce you to at the moment’s podcast visitor, Dr. Carolyn Dean. Carolyn, thanks a lot for being right here at the moment. I’m so excited to speak to you.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Thanks. Thanks, Ruth. I’ve been watching, not watching, listening to your podcast and also you’ve been interviewed fairly a number of instances by my pal, Michael Sandler.
In order that was enjoyable. Properly, anyway, I’m simply leaping in.
I’m a medical physician and a naturopath. However I feel I’m a naturopath at coronary heart. I did my medical coaching first and They didn’t dissuade me from wanting to assist individuals with life-style and simply extra optimistic pondering, non-drugs.
And that was again within the mid 70s once I went to med college. And there actually wasn’t that a lot details about options. There was no well being meals retailer. Within the metropolis the place I did my medical coaching, which was Halifax, Nova Scotia. So I wasn’t deterred by what I realized in med college, though it was all drug oriented and so they laughed at me trigger I made my very own yogurt and so they laughed at me once I was, puncturing an apple with acupuncture needles, as a result of that was my elective.
I discovered an anesthesiologist within the hospital, a Chinese language gentleman, who was doing an acupuncture clinic after hours. So he stated to me as soon as, yeah, you realize, I do all this medical stuff and sort of, you realize, intrude with individuals through the day, however then I make up for it once I do my acupuncture. So I had a variety of help in staying with options after which in my apply, it was, as I stated, I apply as a medical physician, however largely doing naturopathic drugs.
I sincerely thought by now, all docs can be doing nutrient based mostly drugs, however they sadly they went to the darkish aspect. Severely, much more.
Ruth: Properly, it surprises me to speak to listen to you say you went to medical college within the seventies and it was already very a lot based mostly on medicine and prescriptions and simply probably not any options even again as a result of that’s—you realize, 70s weren’t that not too long ago and but now you’re proper. It’s gotten full. It’s gotten fully worse and like actually dangerous.
Dr. Dean I keep in mind one among my clinicians saying solely give a medicine so long as it takes the affected person to get again on their ft.
And now we’ve bought these lifelong drugs for diabetes, for ldl cholesterol, for you identify it. So it’s gone very medical and all of the unwanted effects from all these medicine. I imply, there are a whole lot of them. And worst of all is in my world, as a result of I’m an professional on magnesium. They deplete magnesium.
Loads of these medicine are simply inbuilt such a means. Loads of them have fluoride molecules connected to them to make them simpler to get throughout fats cell membranes. Our cell membranes are product of fats and these medicine get by, however. Within the intestines, these medicine could be damaged down by the intestinal micro organism and so they’ll launch this fluoride.
So then we’re poisoned and the fluoride it is going to bind I feel primarily to magnesium as a result of magnesium could be very reactive. I don’t know that for positive. There’s no research. Nobody’s taking a look at this. It’s my conjecture that when, as a result of chemically, magnesium will bind to fluoride, you get an MgF2, and that compound referred to as phthalate deposits in tendons and joints and ligaments.
And what’s the black field warning on ciprofloxacin, which is a fluoride drug? It’s tendon rupture. Folks will take, a variety of athletes will take Cipro. They’re giving it, Oh, I’ve bought a chilly. I’ve bought a sport arising, you realize, give me a drug. They take Cipro and generally it’s on one, you realize, one prescription.
Typically it’s cumulative and so they find yourself with tendon rupture. And we see that. I imply, I’m positive you’ve had purchasers who’ve had tendon rupture and it could possibly be from as A fluoride drug. So anyway, the medicine are usually not good. Yeah. So what we do is attempt to use nutrient constructing blocks in order that the physique is powerful in order that it may possibly recuperate from sickness or harm.
I had a horrible fall a number of months in the past. I crashed on my elbow and my knee didn’t break a factor. I swelled. Folks thought photos of my arm or my leg as a result of it was so swollen. And also you recuperate. I’m 75. I ought to have damaged many bones. And it’s a testomony to how I stay my life and my vitamins that I didn’t.
And that’s what I need individuals to be taught. That there are constructing blocks and so they’re the fundamentals. You already know, they’re your nutritional vitamins. A, B, C, D, E, what else? After which your minerals. And like I stated I’m I’m actually keen on magnesium. And what I’ve achieved with the mineral world is created a picometer sized, stabilized, ionic type, Of all of the minerals I work with in order that they’re instantly absorbed into the cells.
They don’t run out within the bowels or the urine. So the physique will get what it wants and it doesn’t must be excessive dose. So that you get your magnesium, your calcium, after all, however in our world, we’ve an excessive amount of calcium. Girls are advised to take calcium dietary supplements to guard their bones, however they’re not advised about calcium.
Or about magnesium and boron and molybdenum, all of the totally different minerals that go to make the bone and collagen. And meaning vitamin C. Complete meals, vitamin C and ascorbic acid. If you need your ligaments and tissue in your physique normally, you want your collagen. I imply, as we age, what gravity does to us is magnified if we don’t have sufficient collagen.
So there’s all, they’re simply primary constructing blocks, however see what I’ve found is and I’ve written it on this e book, I’ve 65 medical situations that may actually be magnesium deficiency. And if we don’t deal with them with magnesium, then we give medicine after which the medicine make us worse. So we’ve gotten into this horrible bind and proper now I’m not, as you’ve heard, I haven’t talked about any model names of my merchandise that the FDA gained’t let me say that my formulation might help individuals deal with or stop illness.
We rely on podcasts like yours for us to get the knowledge on the market for individuals to grasp that. You already know, with magnesium deficiency, you possibly can have acid reflux disorder, you possibly can have Alzheimer’s and angina and atherosclerosis and anxiousness. I imply, take a look at the anxiousness in our world. Nervousness and panic assaults and even melancholy.
And I’ve heard your story. I do know what you’ve gone by. And if I may have solely had you and, you realize, soaked you in Epsom salt and gave you magnesium and, you realize, some B nutritional vitamins for positive, you’ll have You already know, had an additional degree of coping so that you simply didn’t must face what you face. So there are mind results with vitamins.
And as an alternative of giving the vitamins, the minerals and the, you realize, the straightforward nutritional vitamins and omega 3 fatty acids, and naturally, vitamin D. Then we’re confronted with signs that then we both take medicine for, or we take an entire host of herbs and, you realize, no matter, ashwagandhi and herbs that, in the event that they’re not natural.
They’re not secure to take.
Ruth: Can I interrupt you for only a second and we are able to perhaps again up a bit bit as a result of I really feel like we, we talked about a variety of issues abruptly. And I, so I’d like to interrupt it down just a bit extra methodically for people who find themselves listening, who for who that is like all model new data, proper?
So let’s similar to perceive and begin with a bit bit like, of like how, so that you went to medical college and also you have been concerned about like pure various strategies from the very starting, or was there one thing that occurred in your individual, by your individual expertise that actually bought you obsessed with sort of following down this path?
As a result of it’s totally different than what they’re instructing in medical colleges. And apparently even again within the Seventies, and in addition it’s totally different from the norms. So what was it that sort of bought you eager to even go down like a distinct, take a distinct strategy?
Dr. Dean I suppose I used to be simply curious once I was in my teenagers and my then boyfriend, now husband of 58 years, we started touring and from Dartmouth, Halifax, Nova Scotia, we ended up in California through the hippie days and we weren’t hippie, hippies, we weren’t druggies, however there was a vitamin revolution, Adele Davis, Pavarola, Jonathan Wright.
They usually had a number of books and the individuals we have been staying with had a library. So I spent my time in that library and on the conventions with these authentic well being consultants. And so I simply caught the bug. And I realized as a lot as I may, however what occurred is once I tried to cross on the knowledge, individuals weren’t that .
So lastly, once I was in honors biology in college, some children, younger boys, males I knew in my lessons, they simply bought into medical college. So I stated, effectively, that’s for me. And I entered into the following semester. I simply occurred to have all of the stipulations. So I went into drugs with the thought that, hey, you realize, perhaps individuals gained’t take heed to me if I’ve a medical diploma.
However as I already stated, you realize, that I imply, I used to be form of castigated as a result of I spoke pure issues. I’d say, effectively, I simply learn this paper that breast milk is best than bottled milk. And the pediatrician who was lecturing up on the entrance of the room, he referred to as me bubbles. He stated, effectively, you realize, you could assume.
The science is behind us. So, you realize, there you go. So that you’ll like this Ruth. It’s not on level, but it surely was so patriarchal and misogynistic or no matter phrases you need to say in med college. My class out of 100 was the primary class that had greater than 25 ladies, 33 ladies. So we took, after all we took over the primary day of faculty, a clinician got here in and put up his slide.
It was a slide projector in the back of the theater and he was down entrance. The primary slide was a nude feminine slide. The second slide was a brand new feminine. The third slide was a nude feminine. In order that’s the way it was being taught. And no person knew one another within the class and other people, you realize, we have been sort of. Trying round.
I did greater than appeared round. I went out and get a microbiology professor pal of mine who had a depraved humorousness. And he was within the med college realm. And I bought a playgirl journal. It was most likely the primary version in 1975. And I took out the male nude photos and he made slides. So two days later, when Buddy got here again To proceed his superior lecture.
We had the nude male slides within the entrance of his deck by the second slide, he had grabbed his little briefcase and ran out. I heard later that from my microbiology pal. In a single day, they took down each nude feminine image that was littered all through anatomy and biology.
They took every thing down. In order that’s direct motion. That’s not standing on a picket line and whining and complaining. It’s doing one thing.
Ruth: So you’re a trailblazer. Yeah, you’re a trailblazer. I adore it. Okay. So now let’s discuss a bit bit extra in regards to the minerals and the nutritional vitamins and this stuff that proper.
The pharmaceutical firms don’t need us to speak about as a result of they need us to take the medicine. And now, such as you identified, they need us to be taking drugs for the remainder of our lives. They don’t, I imply, that’s the entire objective, proper. Is to get us not simply taking the medicine to take the medicine for so long as they will presumably get us to take them, ideally for all times.
Okay. As a result of that’s how they take advantage of cash, however you’re saying we really have to be sure that we’re, if we simply can get the appropriate nutritional vitamins and minerals to really permit our physique to operate correctly. So what would you say are a number of the most essential issues that girls over 40 should be targeted on?
And the way do you even know the place to start? Prefer it feels it’s, it may possibly really feel so overwhelming. So how do you want, like, what are sort of the fundamentals?
Dr. Dean We begin saying to individuals, I’m, and I say, we, on my own and my customer support, and I’ve a radio present, on-line radio present each Monday. And the message we put out is the worst is over since you’re right here.
And what we begin with is magnesium and magnesium is critical for 80 p.c of identified metabolic features within the physique. All of the enzymes, every thing from head to foot. Magnesium is critical to make muscle mass and nerves work. And the way they do that could be a nerve cell or muscle cell might be opened up. The cell mineral ion channel might be opened as much as permit a bit little bit of calcium into the cell.
To permit it to fireplace off and create the motion potential. After which, so, when that’s occurring, the cell is closed down, after which magnesium opens the cell up. And the calcium comes out. Should you don’t have magnesium for this operate, the cells sort of get floppy and the calcium simply drives itself in inflicting twitching and spasms and burning and irritation and tightness and mind fog, and we’ve 600 muscle mass.
We now have 45 miles of nerves. So any of that may be affected, you realize, the attention twitching that I used. I’m a magnesium deficiency particular person, you realize, poster youngster. So I had the attention twitching and, you realize, swallowing issues, coronary heart palpitations, leg cramps, Charlie horse, stressed legs. Tight shoulders, insomnia, complications, all of these are signs of even migraines.
Luckily, I didn’t have migraines. So all these signs of the nerves and muscle mass. And you then get to the metabolic enzymes that magnesium works with. And that may be the digestion. You understand how our insulin is delivered to assist the glucose get into cells. simply how ldl cholesterol is made. The gene statin, the ldl cholesterol suppressing medicine, they work on the identical enzyme that magnesium balances.
So statins will kill this, they, HMG CoA reductase. It’ll kill it. Whereas magnesium, if the physique wants extra calcium, it is going to manipulate the enzyme. If it wants much less, sorry, ldl cholesterol. If it wants extra ldl cholesterol, it is going to manipulate the enzyme and vice versa. So we’ve bought a means for the physique to do issues correctly.
So, and your subsequent query goes to be, effectively, why aren’t we getting sufficient magnesium? We don’t get it in our meals anymore. It’s been farmed out of the soil and it’s very costly to, to place all of the minerals again within the soil. So I’m, you realize, a variety of my focus outdoors my on-line dietary complement firm.
It’s a biodynamic natural farm. I put every thing into this farm. And if I attempt to eat solely off the farm with rooster eggs and all of the greens and fruits, I get all my magnesium deficiency signs again. I’ve been at conferences the place vegans and vegetarians will come as much as me after my magnesium lecture and say, effectively, I’ve twitching and this and that, however I’m ingesting 30 to 40 ounces of inexperienced drink a day.
I must be getting sufficient magnesium. And I say, effectively, clearly you’re not. After which they take my liquid magnesium and Severely, they arrive again the following day and so they say, I really feel so significantly better. As a result of they’re mainly very wholesome, as a result of they’re not consuming, you realize, most likely not consuming the seed oils, not consuming straight sugars, and all the remainder of it which might be dangerous for us.
And the magnesium they have been lacking once they take it, it’s like, Oh, okay, my cells actually like that. And you may be doing all the appropriate issues and consuming all the appropriate meals and consuming very well. However what you’re saying is you’re nonetheless not getting the correct amount of magnesium as a result of it doesn’t exist in the way in which that our meals is produced and manufactured and raised and grown anymore.
Ruth: So how have you learnt, is mainly all people magnesium poor? I imply, is that simply sort of throughout the board? After which how have you learnt how a lot magnesium you need to be taking?
Dr. Dean: This will get into the issue of magnesium compounds versus stabilize the ion of magnesium. However I all the time say that any quantity of magnesium even the worst absorbed like magnesium oxide is a straight on laxative as a result of solely 4 p.c of it’s absorbed.
However individuals really feel higher once they take it. Research have proven that magnesium oxide helps individuals. So in case you have any magnesium in your cupboard, you realize, begin taking a bit little bit of it. However if you happen to take an excessive amount of of it, it’ll provide the laxative impact. And a variety of docs would say effectively, if you happen to get the laxative impact, then that’s sufficient, your physique has absorbed sufficient.
That’s not the case. It’s simply bought run proper by your physique and turn out to be a laxative and that was my drawback really. When Random Home requested me to put in writing my Miracle of Magnesium e book again in 1999, I ran, I noticed my signs within the analysis I used to be doing. I ran out and bought a bottle of magnesium as a result of I wished greater than was in my a number of and I instantly bought the laxative impact with 50 milligrams.
So I needed to go on a ten 12 months search for an organization and at last, I discovered a chemist who would make a non laxative stabilized ion of magnesium. And it’s the one one which’s out there. And so it’s my mission to let individuals learn about this, however like I stated, any magnesium, it’s going to assist. However if you happen to’re on a half a dozen medicine and feeling all of the signs head to foot, you want extra magnesium.
That’s not going to make the laxative impact magnesium compounds. After they get into the bloodstream, they may disassociate. It’s referred to as. into the 2 elements, magnesium and the citrus citric acid, the magnesium and chloride, magnesium and the glycine. And it’s solely separated for a cut up second. And it’s solely in that cut up second the place the ion of magnesium will soar right into a cell.
And do its work, however you realize, there are trillions of effectively tens of trillions of cells in our physique, so You already know, there’s all the time one thing occurring however we’ve gotten to the purpose now with our Power PTSD as a rustic as a world. The horrible weight loss plan that individuals are consuming the huge stress The shortage of minerals in our water that we’ve to complement.
And what I’ve begun, effectively, it’s been years, however I’ve talked about whole physique meltdown that’s occurring in of us the place the thyroid is affected and weakened, particularly in ladies after getting pregnant and childbirth, the thyroid could be very a lot. depleted. And what allopathic drugs and various drugs each do is that they wait until the thyroid is completely tanked and so they give thyroid hormone alternative.
I used to be on armor thyroid and after I made my magnesium product, I made a a number of mineral with all of the stabilized ions. And within the analysis and all I discovered 9 minerals that help thyroid hormone manufacturing. 9 minerals. So I put it in amongst a complete of 12 minerals. Six weeks into taking my very own method and we have been testing it out.
My arms and ft bought heat and I used to be extra hyper than regular. So I noticed, oh my gosh, my thyroid is kicked in. So I ended my arm or thyroid. Now, that is what the FDA doesn’t like to listen to. And I can inform you 1000’s of individuals since then have been in a position to get their thyroid hormone again. And we’ve to warn individuals once you take this a number of mineral, you realize, remember that your physique could not want.
As a lot or could not want the thyroid hormone anymore. And that’s fairly highly effective. Whenever you consider the constructing blocks which might be mandatory, the adrenal glands, they depend upon sodium. And what are we telling individuals? Don’t eat salt, depend upon the B nutritional vitamins, and so they’re not in our meals provide both, and vitamin C and magnesium.
Easy constructing blocks. And there’s potassium in there as effectively. Potassium is essential. Truly with magnesium generally, they assist the absorption of one another. So then you might have the intercourse hormones, you realize, when the thyroid is weakened it drags the adrenals and vice versa. After which it, there’s a drag on the intercourse hormones.
perimenopause. I don’t assume it’s regular. It’s simply been a reputation that’s been given to ladies who I feel have whole physique meltdown and so they’re simply dragging on their thyroid and their adrenals and simply feeling horrible. Yeah. However this, the boron. There’s an entire checklist of issues. Primary minerals that the intercourse hormones bend on in addition to ldl cholesterol.
Ruth: So, so how does, so magnesium, you’re saying it impacts ldl cholesterol as effectively?
Dr. Dean: Completely. So the various kinds of magnesium, that is fascinating to me. So are what, which is the kind of magnesium that individuals must be taking if the magnesium is inflicting sub deficiency? Yeah. Sure. So. The advertising of magnesium up to now, you realize, 10, what’s it, 15, 20 years?
I feel a variety of it’s based mostly on my e book, the Magnesium Miracle. It’s not this e book, this can be a shorter type and an replace of all issues magnesium. However if you happen to take a look at the advertising of a variety of these magnesium compounds, they’ll reference my e book or me. And what they’ve tried to do is say. Oh, you realize, MagniTML308.
On the entrance of the label 2000 milligrams and also you assume, Oh, my gosh, 2000 milligrams of magnesium. I’m all set. Flip the label round. Oh, I’ve to take three capsules with a purpose to get solely 144 milligrams. Oh, my gosh. In order that’s sort of promoting. And Then they do the magnesium L3 in a individuals. They did a examine on rats and stated it was 7 p.c extra absorbed into the mind than a magnesium citrate based mostly on 7%.
They’ve satisfied the general public that they’re the one magnesium that may get into the mind. Any magnesium in its ionic state, you realize, once I get it disassociated, it is going to pop into the mind. In order that they’ve actually, you realize, and it’s an costly product as effectively. They’ve actually achieved a disservice to the general public.
It’s closely marketed. It’s it’s comes out of China. We don’t know what’s happening with it. And in some situations, they attempt to say that threonate is like threonine, which is a an amino acid that’s good for the mind, but it surely’s a threonate, which is a spinoff of vitamin C. So it has nothing to do with something.
And the advertising of all of the others. Oh, effectively, you will get a magnesium malate and that’ll assist if you happen to’ve bought fibromyalgia and the tour a magnesium tour. It’s going to assist the center and this the glycine and glycine magnesium glycinate will do assist the intestine. But when it’s a magnesium deficiency that you simply need to care for, you need the magnesium.
You don’t need the taurate or the malate. And that’s why I’ve the stabilized magnesium ion, 300 milligrams per dose, straight magnesium. Whereas you are taking A 500 milligram capsule of a magnesium compound. The magnesium half is 50 to 75 milligrams and the remaining is the add on. All the opposite stuff.
Ruth: So, however what you actually should be targeted on. So, I imply, that is all like very technical stuff that we’re speaking about and it’s straightforward to get overwhelmed with all of it. So, how do you strategy this if you happen to’re simply eager to. Enhance your well being, proper? How do you strategy this in a means that makes it actually easy to know, okay, right here’s precisely what I have to do, proper?
Simply give me, I hear this from my purchasers on a regular basis. Like, ah, I like listening to about all these things, however then I get overwhelmed and I don’t know tips on how to implement it. So how do I am going, like, what do I do? Simply inform me what to do step-by-step. So what are the steps? Let’s give like three steps.
Dr. Dean: Primary, get hydrated.
Okay. You want water and also you want sea salt in that water. So you are taking your physique’s weight in kilos, divide that in half, drink that many ounces of water per day. After which every quarter liter put And I’m going so as to add 1 / 4 teaspoon of a very good sea salt. Good sea salt means one thing that has shade in it.
If it’s a white sea salt, it’s been too refined. However you don’t begin with 1 / 4 teaspoon. Simply begin with a pinch. And also you’ll get, it’ll style candy to you. It’ll style so significantly better than. Then water out of the faucet and water out of the faucet. It’s been filtered. It’s been chlorinated, perhaps Florida.
Florida. So we do need you to have non chlorine, non fluoride waters as a lot as doable. So you set within the sea salt, primary, hydration with sea salt. And quantity two, simply begin taking some magnesium. Like I stated, all people’s bought magnesium of their cabinet. I assure you, however you’ve most likely put it apart due to the laxative impact.
If it’s a powder, put it in, in your sea salt water. After which sip that by the day so that you simply’re not simply taking one, one harsh dose like that may overwhelm your self and land in your gut. That’s a laxative of the liquid powders, even capsules, Ruth, individuals may take a magnesium capsule. and put that in water and attempt to dissolve it and drink that by the day.
I do know there’ll be binders and fillers in there, however you’re swallowing it anyway. And the third factor can be to come up with my e book. It’s a really it’s a very simple to learn, overview of magnesium, which is critical for 80 p.c of identified metabolic features. After which on the finish of it, you could determine that, effectively, perhaps I ought to do this.
And as soon as individuals attempt my Pico meter magnesium, they don’t look again. And that’s what you need from vitamins. You need to really feel them work. My a number of minerals introduced my thyroid again and did an entire bunch of different issues. And my magnesium, it took away my coronary heart palpitations and a dozen different signs. So, it’s And what’s it?
The proof is within the pudding. Yeah. Properly, I imply, that makes it really feel so much easier and positively much more doable. Eat the water, add the salt, which is in, which is completely reverse of what individuals inform us. Then take the magnesium, no matter magnesium you might have, simply. Begin taking extra magnesium and getting extra magnesium.
Ruth: It’s very attention-grabbing. I haven’t heard that prefer to unfold it all through the day and be ingesting it all through the day. So I actually like that. After which positively try your e book. We are going to ensure that so as to add the hyperlink to your e book in our present notes. So if you happen to’re listening to this, then you possibly can simply try the present notes and we are able to, and you’ll find the e book and to learn extra Carolyn, thanks a lot.
