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Good day and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode is a couple of matter that’s close to and pricey to my coronary heart, which is balancing parenting and entrepreneurship and instructing our youngsters monetary abilities. And I’ve talked about this a bit bit up to now, however on this episode, I’m so excited to get to go deep on this with my pal Gordy, who’s the writer of the guide, The New Millionaire’s Playbook, in addition to the founding father of the Acutely aware Thought Revolution, which is ctr.com. And he’s now a sought-after advisor, speaker, mentor, and coach to entrepreneurs and buyers, in addition to a dad of three. And I like that on this episode, we obtained to speak about integrating no matter we do for profession and enterprise with household life, relatively than compartmentalizing these, the way to put together our youngsters for monetary success, the way to put together ourselves for that, and the internal shifts that we are able to make that make a profound distinction in each of those areas. We additionally discuss tech use and display screen time with youngsters, the way to assist them develop a wholesome mindset for all of this stuff from a younger age, and a lot extra. So, let’s be part of Gordy and soar into the dialog. Gordy, welcome again. I’m so excited we get to have one other dialog.
Gordy: Me too. Thanks for having me once more.
Katie: Nicely, I’ll hyperlink to our different episode for you guys who haven’t heard it but, which will get to go deep on plenty of subjects associated to what you name the brand new millionaire. And I like that episode. On this one, I’d love to speak a bit bit extra as a result of the general public listening are dad and mom. I do know that you’re as nicely. You will have three youngsters. I’d love to speak about balancing entrepreneurship, no matter we’re doing within the monetary realm with parenting. And likewise, how will we assist our youngsters construct a strong basis of monetary abilities in life? And like I mentioned, I do know that you’ve direct expertise with this as a busy dad your self, however what recommendation do you must different entrepreneurs who’re in that progress part, striving to construct a enterprise, and in addition attempting to maintain household as a giant precedence of their lives?
Gordy: Yeah, I believe for me, the largest shift was integration and actually integrating my mission the place it’s not separate. Like I’ve seen plenty of entrepreneurs who’re dad and mom, and so they form of compartmentalize, and it’s like, okay, I’m sporting my enterprise hat now, and now I’m sporting my household hat. And that’s actually arduous for me. And so, what I do is to me, my mission is my mission. So, whether or not it’s enterprise or household, all of it comes collectively. And so, a part of what that appears like is, you recognize, after I’m occurring talking excursions or going to facilitate workshops or going to investor conferences, like I’m having one among my, not less than one among my youngsters with me and so they’re a part of it, and we’re strategizing, and we’re speaking about it. So that they’re half, like, they’re a part of the method, and it simply makes it a lot extra enjoyable as a result of frankly, and I discuss this loads, is like the college system, you recognize this, the college system is just not actually equipping our youngsters in one of the simplest ways attainable. I imply, it’s set as much as create manufacturing facility employees and rats for a rat race. And I believe like, you recognize, if we simply absolutely depend on the college system to assist our youngsters grow to be thriving souls on this world, then I really feel like we’re doing a disservice. So for me, like, you recognize, my mission is to speed up the evolution of human consciousness. And so, whether or not I’m doing that by way of my investments, by way of my companies, by way of my household, by way of my youngsters, prefer it’s all the identical factor. And in order that’s one of many issues that I’m all the time, you recognize, filtering for is like, does this match inside my mission? So, I’d say that’s like the largest factor for me is the mixing and never compartmentalizing it.
And likewise, together with your loved ones, together with your youngsters or your companion, in business-related conversations to the diploma that they’re . And this can be a little edgy to say, however I’d say that if you must have your small business and your loved ones so separated, I’d ask you to query if your small business is actually nourishing you, and if your small business is really an expression of your soul, and is it really a mission? As a result of if it’s not, then it’s arduous, and it’s arduous. And, like, if your loved ones doesn’t care or fascinated with what you’re constructing and creating, I’d say that’s a possibility so that you can mirror and see, you recognize, how do you wish to, you recognize, have your soul essence expressed by way of your small business.
Katie: I like that shift. I additionally convey not less than one among my youngsters with me to many occasions and even to board conferences. And I’ve carried out that for a very long time. And it’s, I by no means stop to be amazed by how extremely succesful youngsters are of understanding a lot from such a younger age and the way that turns into a part of their understanding and vocabulary a lot sooner than it was for me. And it’s actually enjoyable to see them now at older ages beginning their very own companies and getting into that world and the way they’re so a lot better geared up than I used to be as an grownup even a lot much less at their ages. And I do assume for teenagers, too, it’s a bonus. And I inform my youngsters this on a regular basis, It’s a bonus to know that earlier and to enter that world even whilst you’re nonetheless a child as a result of it’s much less frequent. So, you truly have already got type of a leg up as a result of it’s much less anticipated. And particularly if they’ve a few of these foundational abilities that they be taught from us modeling them, it’s actually fascinating to look at.
And such as you, I noticed when my oldest was getting into kindergarten age that not one of the present college choices adequately put together youngsters for what a really unsure grownup future might seem like as a result of my job didn’t exist after I was getting into college. And so, after I labored backwards of how will we adequately put together them for no matter their future is perhaps, I ended up with a way more first ideas abilities up versus data down method, which fortunately, the web makes loads simpler than it will have been 20 years in the past. And so, I like that you’ve that focus along with your youngsters as nicely.
And I additionally love that you simply talked in regards to the mission-driven part of enterprise as a result of I believe this is perhaps the lacking hyperlink for lots of people who don’t really feel fulfilled by the work that they’re doing. And sometimes, it looks as if small shifts in our thought course of or in how we’re integrating with a enterprise or perhaps a job could make an amazing distinction, even when we don’t shift our total profession or shift into a completely totally different path. Typically doing type of like we talked about in our first episode, that internal audit of our ideas and our mission and our motivation may help us to seek out a lot extra gratitude and achievement within the work we’re doing, even when it doesn’t drastically change. However have you ever observed that with all of the individuals you’ve labored with as nicely?
Gordy: Yeah, it’s yeah, I imply, this has been so huge for for the work like so, you recognize, a part of my skilled life is I run a enterprise capital fund, and I put money into firms which can be which can be mission-driven. And it’s been alarming to see even the leaders of mission-driven firms are are doing the work on themselves. They’re not, they’re not truly, you recognize, excavating their very own internal shadow and demons to actually mirror their, their course of, their deeper course of. And so, what I what I’ve observed is that their enterprise turns into a byproduct of their very own consciousness. And so, a part of my work with them is to assist them join deeper to their soul, after which, you recognize, do among the deeper consciousness work in order that the issues they’re attempting to resolve of their enterprise, should you’re attempting to resolve the issues with the identical consciousness they use to create them, how do you count on a distinct outcome? It’s like that well-known Einstein quote, we are able to’t resolve the issues with the identical considering we use to create them.
And so, you recognize, this, it was humorous, I used to be working with one entrepreneur, tremendous, like pushed, extremely pushed, A sort like extremely profitable, however he was having large issues. And, and, you recognize, once you, you recognize, each stage of progress in an organization, you face new challenges. And he was at a degree the place he was going through challenges, each within the enterprise and in his private life together with his household. And so, as we’re sitting there, and I might see like his face, like his brow was crunching up, and he’s like, actually, like his, his physiology was like in a really constricted state, as a result of he’s attempting to resolve this downside. And I simply paused for a second. And I mentioned, what does your soul need? And it was like his mind exploded. And I mentioned, and he’s like taking a look at me, I’m like, when was the final time you linked along with your soul? And I mentioned, do you must guide an appointment along with your soul by way of Calendly? Or does your EA need to guide an appointment along with your soul? And he’s simply, he began laughing, and he had in his destiny, and his entire physiology shifted as a result of he realized there’s this entire deeper side of himself that he’s not tapping into, and once you’re not linked to your soul, your, your instinct isn’t absolutely on-line. So, you’re simply attempting to make use of your cognitive talents to resolve issues, however your cognition solely has a lot bandwidth. And if it’s all the time being bombarded by the unfavorable ideas and the shortage ideas anyway, you’re, you’re combating an uphill battle. So because of this, like, I’ve realized, you recognize, every thing generally is a religious course of, particularly enterprise. And should you deal with it like that, then your small business turns into rather more than a enterprise. It turns into a mission. It turns into one thing a lot larger than your self and then you definately get pleasure from it. After which it’s like a sport, and then you definately’re additionally bettering and elevating your self. And by doing so your small business grows and shifts and adjustments. And that is how, once more, like household turns into part of it as a result of it’s all interwoven into the tapestry of your existence.
Katie: And I do know that as a dad, you’re additionally very targeted on serving to your youngsters on this journey and serving to them have a robust framework from a younger age. So, I’d love to listen to any ways in which you’re type of doing this deeper work along with your youngsters or making it a foundational a part of how they operate on the planet from the very starting. As a result of I additionally really feel like our youngsters are a few of our biggest lecturers. And once we mannequin for them, we regularly be taught the teachings in a a lot deeper method ourselves. So how do you combine this into your loved ones tradition? What sort of conversations do you might have along with your youngsters round this type of stuff?
Gordy: Yeah, so there’s a couple of issues. One factor I’ll share that’s been actually useful for us is we felt plenty of rigidity with screens and expertise with our youngsters, and we had been noticing that they had been beginning to actually grow to be overly consumed by their laptops or the tablets. And so, what we did, a pair issues we realized. One on simply on a well being degree was we realized that if we truly offset their as an alternative as a result of as an alternative of taking the screens away from them, which I believe is just not the best reply, however we there’s a pair issues we did, one is we offset their display screen time with nature as a result of nature has a pure method of recalibrating the nervous system, particularly with the unfavorable ion vitality from like being within the ocean or seaside or forest. So simply serving to them even perceive that as a result of, as a result of they love gaming too. And there’s this one sport. It’s a it’s I believe it’s a Mario sport. And in it, one of many characters, he goes, “Adverse ions go,” is what the character says. And so they and so, for me, it was that excellent alternative to clarify what are unfavorable ions. How do they assist your physique? Let’s go get unfavorable ions.
After which so, once we’re doing that, that opens up the house for dialogue and exploration. After which what I’m capable of do is, I’ll present them what I’m engaged on in enterprise, and I’ll get their suggestions. What do you assume? How do you assume this could? And it’s loopy how sensible their concepts are. It’s like, it’s a method higher than a few of my very own workforce would have. So, I believe after which honoring them, honoring them for his or her concepts and respecting, respecting them and giving them that confidence for themselves.
And what was so cool for me was, oh, after which yeah, what was actually cool is, you recognize, I only a couple weeks in the past, I used to be doing a keynote in Toronto with our mutual pal Jim Kwik. And, and my, my 11-year-old son Jackson was on that journey with me, and he was within the viewers and, and nicely, one was actually cool. He noticed me do a keynote and he mentioned, and he actually beloved it. He mentioned, Daddy, your discuss was the perfect, which is actually cool to listen to. However then I might see that he was actually admiring Jim as a result of, you recognize, Jim has, you recognize, he’s labored with the Elon Musk. He’s labored with all of the Marvel characters. So, and, and, you recognize, they’re huge into comics, after which it was cool as a result of he after he was like, he was form of like, you recognize, nervous to wish to join with Jim, and he’s like, I wish to ask him one thing. And I used to be like, okay, nicely, come on, let’s go ask him. He’s like, I don’t know if I wish to, and I used to be like, Jim, Jackson needs to ask you one thing. After which, clearly, Jim’s such a candy man. He’s like, what can I provide help to with? And Jackson asks him, he’s like as a result of you recognize, Jim is the mind man.
And so, and Jackson has his mind, like, you recognize, he’s, he’s cognitively sensible. However generally, that’s additionally his, his kryptonite. And he mentioned, Jim, how can what’s one factor I can do to assist my assist use my mind higher? And Jim goes, a number of occasions a day, simply ask your self, is that this good for my mind? Or is that this dangerous for my mind? And, and it was so cool to see Jackson get that info as a result of now, ever since then, he’s making use of it, and he’s utilizing it. And he’s even in his personal, like, ideations of whether or not he’s doing a college challenge, or whether or not he’s taking part in a sport, or whether or not he’s doing analysis, I can see he’s caught that filter. And never solely does he have that filter for himself, however now he has that filter for others. And he, so now a part of, and he advised me, he’s like, Daddy, I believe I wish to be an entrepreneur, I wish to resolve issues. And so, as a result of he. due to this publicity that he’s gotten. And so these are among the ways in which you recognize, we’re holding house and having these conversations, and in addition not being connected. I believe that’s one of many issues generally we as dad and mom do is we have now these attachments that we would like our youngsters to be these grand, superb, epic people that, you recognize, should meet our expectations. And I believe that’s, that’s, that’s loopy, too. It’s similar to, you recognize, honor them for who they’re, the distinctive stardust beings that they’re, and, you recognize, unconditionally love them. And once you’re not unconditionally loving them, what’s it that you simply’re projecting onto them? What’s the side of your self that you simply haven’t but discovered to like? As a result of you recognize, that’s a possibility to see how they’re instructing us that we’re nonetheless, we nonetheless have to do our work.
In order that’s form of the, you recognize, the connection and we’re all the time, you recognize, asking them like what how questions like we talked about in our earlier podcast as nicely. You recognize, we, we’d be as conscious as attainable to not ask, like, why did you try this? As a result of once you as quickly as you body a query, like, why did you try this, you’re already making them incorrect. You’re already making them defensive, and so they they their programming begins working as like, nicely, one thing have to be incorrect for me to now I’ve to think about. However whereas, whereas should you ask them one thing like, oh, you recognize, how did that really feel? Or what are three issues that labored about that? Or what’s one thing that you simply wish to have occur? Now hastily, it’s extra of an inquiry, curiosity-based dialog versus, like, you recognize, an emotionally triggered one.
Katie: I believe that’s an unimaginable tip that you simply simply gave and the way you talked about gratitude as nicely. That’s a follow we’ve adopted as a household is at dinner, we’ll usually go round and identify three issues we’re grateful for simply to form of give them that lens of trying by way of life all through the day of, like, what am I grateful for? As a result of, as you mentioned, that’s the vitality of getting already obtained. And so, once we exist in a state of gratitude, initially, we find yourself being loads happier usually, however I like serving to them hold that as their focus all through the day. And I additionally love what you mentioned about attachments and the issues that we challenge onto them as a result of I really feel like I had unimaginable dad and mom. And I additionally felt plenty of stress, particularly in academic-related issues rising up. And so, I used to be attempting to be very conscious of that with my youngsters. And I believe so many parenting struggles may very well be solved by merely remembering always that they’re every their very own infinite autonomous beings. And that’s one among my first ideas of parenting is they don’t seem to be mine, they don’t belong to me, they don’t seem to be reflections of me, they don’t seem to be mini-versions of me, they’re every their very own infinite autonomous people. And I’m not right here to assist decide who they’re. I’m right here to assist them uncover who they’re. And so, I like that you simply introduced that up.
Gordy: I do know from writing, I’m scripting this down, infinite autonomous people. I like that.
Katie: And I believe if we simply even hold that high of thoughts in how we work together with them, it’s not us because the authority telling them what to do as somebody who doesn’t have authority. They’re already autonomous. And that doesn’t imply we don’t information them. However I like your method in ask good questions, assist them be taught to ask good questions. And I believe if we construct that connection in a robust method, it removes the necessity for lots of the ability battle and the issues that plenty of dad and mom run into. So, I like that you’ve this ethos woven all through your small business, woven all through your loved ones tradition, that these issues are intertwined. They’re for me as nicely. And I believe the extra individuals which can be ready to try this, such as you mentioned, we’re transferring on this very lovely aware course as a society as an entire. And I imagine strongly that it begins with every of us and with our households. So, I like that you simply’re bringing that message.
Are there another key takeaways associated to the guide that I do know we talked about extra within the first episode or to household tradition and parenting that you’d love to go away individuals with on this episode?
Gordy: Sure, however I’ve a query for you first on the gratitude. So, we’ve applied the gratitude as nicely. So, daily they write three issues that they’re grateful for. But when that is what I haven’t found out the way to assist, however the issues that they write are be like pizza, video video games, bushes. And so, I’m comfortable that they’re moving into the follow of gratitude, however I’m noticing that it’s nearly like they’re… and possibly it’s simply me judging what they’re being grateful for, so it’s my work once more. However I’m curious, like, yeah, is there one thing that you simply’ve observed or that you simply do to assist them actually get deeper into the gratitude versus like issues? You recognize what I imply?
Katie: Yeah, generally I’ll body that in three, generally it’ll be three individuals you’re particularly grateful for right now. However usually, it’ll simply be three stuff you’re grateful for with three deep explanation why and including that phrase deep. And it’s enjoyable as a result of youngsters join the dots in such superb ways in which I’d not essentially assume to. So, they could nonetheless say they’re grateful for pizza, however then it might need a deeper motive of as a result of we all the time eat pizza collectively as a household, and I really feel linked or I believe it helps them like join, like the place’s the sensation beneath simply the gratitude? Like what else does this hook up with inside my soul or inside my life? And I believe youngsters are such superb pure sample recognizers and that they join dots in distinctive methods. And I believe that’s simply a simple tip to assist them search for patterns somewhere else.
Gordy: That’s sensible. Okay, I’m gonna add that to, to report again. Yeah, so I assume the opposite factor that I’d say is what’s been, what’s actually labored nicely for me is tapping into my very own internal little one with them and taking part in and never taking shit so significantly, and actually letting my very own playful, joyful model come out. As a result of, as you recognize, we one way or the other once we grow to be adults, we simply begin taking issues too significantly. And so, the extra we are able to let go of the seriousness and, and fall again into play, it’s, it simply creates such a greater connection. And I observed that anytime that, you recognize, I’m discovering there to be rigidity, it’s simply it’s as a result of I’m being too critical. I’m taking it method too critical. And so, if I simply remind myself to be like, nicely, what if I used to be 10 proper now or 12 or 13? What, how would I be? And it’s like, it instantly shifts it.
So, I’d say use the chance to actually faucet into your individual internal little one and have enjoyable. Like, get pleasure from these moments, get pleasure from life, like play this entire factor is only a sport anyway. So, play it to the perfect of your skill to have enjoyable, have that means, have function, and generate abundance by way of laughter and curiosity. That’s yeah, that’s a giant reminder I inform myself daily, like play and have enjoyable.
Katie: I adore it. I believe that’s an ideal place to wrap up for right now, however hopefully, we are able to do extra episodes sooner or later. However I’m extraordinarily grateful for you and for all that you simply’ve shared right now. Thanks a lot for being right here, Gordy.
Gordy: Sure, my pleasure. Thanks.
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